These same quote were used on Leahs show to make Cathy Tweed appear insane, as well: https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/. Its similar to families who bring their kids up seeming to dote on them, but murder them in an honor killing lately. But in any event, the world is full of false beliefs. Most abuses in Scientology happened (with the exception of children who of course, have not enough will power) because people AGREED to being abused. That must be the most fallacious argument that Ive ever heard! It is the very definition of suppression. I couldve said the same stuff about Tayler and I never met her. New Chandigarh Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Chandigarh Record Chart 2023, New Agra Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Agra Record Chart 2023, Dhan Ratan Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Dhan Ratan Record Chart 2023, Madhur Shree Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Madhur Shree Satta Record Chart 2023, Delhi State Satta Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Delhi State Satta Record Chart 2023. At my org, this acted as a huge invalidation for quite a few individuals who protested about the looong running of processes disregarding any cognitions except the very specific and arbitrary ones decided by DM out of his own misinterpretation of the Tech. But Im not convinced it should be up to them or any other government or private agency to say how the ill should be treated. Criminal acts are not covered by the first amendment. His posts at his blog dont mention ANYTHING about reformation, nor he uses a narrative leading to ask the church officials to please stop using the destructive policies, to come to senses regarding attacking the dissenters and critics, etc. We must become auditors TO THEM if we are to expect any reformations to happen. Then, sooner or later, they might actually listen. Depression can result in death. Of course, that I dont mean that, neither. Can be really call that a Desire at reformation? Of course you proved your point. By the end of October, she said she was DONE with Scientology. What are you going to say? Many people who arent involved in Scientology believe in that. I already posted earlier about knowing Tayler and how she 100% wanted to leave the cult. Require a physical examination from whatever practitioners of the physical healing arts may be competent and available;, 2. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !! Date of Death or Service May 31, 2023 Theresa Anna Helberg . Finally, the website that is mentioned on the end of the video goes to an obvious anti-Aftermath smear website aimed at discrediting Leah Remini. Ive met Mike and like him just fine though he DID try to get in my way back when he was still in and I was starting to wake up. Visit our Support Center . vitamins, minerals, chiropractors, etc) to address a medical condition, along with some type of auditing program or PTS handling. It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. Sorry that Alanzo spoiled our fun, haha. Taylor was not only a daughter, sister, and granddaughter, but also a dedicated volunteer at NTHS. Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. Of course, we were mostly trying to avoid future lawsuits and PR flaps. I WAS THERE. Was your love unconditional. Am I the only one that realizes this woman never actually cries she just fake sniffles. When most anti-Scientologists refer to The church is doing this or that, and so on, or The church is Fair Gaming this or that one, they fail to recognize that they are ACTUALLY referring to ONE single individual whose orders are being robotically followed. Nobody does. Only a fucking Scientologist who believes they've had millions of daughters and families throughout the last 75 trillion years would be just fucking fine with losing "one lost soul" amongst the many you've had. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. Search Funeral Notices, Deaths, Obituaries & Memoriams. And we all know that the opinion of the majority is the correct one, isnt it? OBITUARY William L Tweed May 23, 1919- November 25, 2012 IN THE CARE OF Skyline Memorial Gardens and Funeral Home William Leslie Tweed 23 May 1919, Portland Oregon - 25 Nov 2012 Portland Oregon Son of Otto Tweed and Esther Nathalia (Carlson) Tweed In 1962 he became a pattern maker when he went to work at Dependable Pattern Works. But now after going public about leaving the church, writing a book about it, and doing The Aftermath, suddenly she is all over the Media, being mentioned at almost every newspaper and magazine on the planet. So much for the anti-Scientology narrative regarding Scientologists not using or seeking proper medical care. It sounds like you tried to help her and in the best way you knew. But no cult has the right to break the law. But we auditors know better than to hate and punish. But, for now, there were not many telecasts of Tyler Tweeds death cause on the news or any orbitary statements. Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems.. Ill check that out too. New this week 0. Now, the anti-Scientology narrative and the anti-Scientologists would attempt us to believe that LRH was only a lunatic who thought that psychiatry was guilty of many Human Rights abuses, and of many abusive treatments; and that ONLY Scientology opposes psychiatry. Hubbard had some harsh words for medicos and learned men, in general. I went to see a doctor, did the tests, was found with my triglycerides very high, and my blood pressure high enough so as to be put on a special diet (I used to eat a lot of junk food back then; now, I dont), which I did long enough to get everything back down to normal. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. Perhaps no more than a 70-80% of the time, I did followed LRH, , Getting back on trackwhat could the church do to reform this aspect of their religion (if were to believe Mike and Leah)? Very, very accurate description!! What drives ratings? I do feel, from being a member for 30 years, that my compassion and humanity was eroded. Their motives for doing this may be more of a legal rudiment, rather than a professed belief in medicine. Oh, but I do feel that it is, Alanzo at least a big portion of it but let me explain myself. Im truly amazed at how much the descriptions of their students barriers to awakening sound like a description of the reactive mind! What the fuck do you call what you are doing? Nice try, Thetaclear. I dont happen to resonate with that belief system, but I think its the right path for some people at this moment in their spiritual journey. Thats why I was a squirrel who seldom followed LRH to the letter. Cmon open your bloggers eyes. Perhaps I need MEDICATION, I must be going crazy or something, because, I mean, this is just me and a very few others who think like this. I mean, how hypocritical can one get? I am truly sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. Regular medical care is allowed though Hubbard did and members do tend to look down on traditional medical care. But just let me discuss my premises leading to my conclusion (based on induction, and not in deduction, meaning is something reasonable and highly probable, but not necessarily a fact) that Mikes and Leahs purpose (ESPECIALLY Mikes) is not reformation but mostly the punishment of DM, and the eradication of the church. And unfortunately, human misery and tragedy have entertainment value. For his hat or role as a psychotherapist he is expected to be trained and properly licensed. Did you miss this from my reply? And Ill take a look at those videos, thanks! And so it is a waste of time to harp on that if you really want to make scientology less dangerous. If we were to go and try to rescue those in the RPF or The Hole (if it even exist today, which I DOUBT it very much), they would probably say, What the fuck are you doing here? Now, a Scnist may not hold a medical doctor in the same regard as a non-Scnist, but that does not mean they do not utilize their services. Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems. Most is like talk therapy. Let me enlighten you here, a little about how those answers look like. But maybe others didnt know the true story of how Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed. These are areas of legal vulnerability for scientology and I think they are areas where they need to reform. I am currently working on that. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. Granted that is probably due to legal reasons. Would you want those teachings to be licensed? The reg was flabbergasted with me but he finally said, Well if you just dont want to do it then I wont make you do it. Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. A Scientologist heading for suicide - the missing Tayler Tweed Facebook postings - 2016-04-28 Are you even going to be aware of what you are saying at that time? Absolutely. January 23, 1924 - January 3, 2022 U.S. B) A thorough medical examination by a REAL doctor to locate possible deficiencies, and unknown illnesses or injuries; and a professional medical treatment done on whatever was found. Curtis was free-spirited and enjoyed music, guitars, and hanging out with his closest friends. Mrs. Tweed was a longtime member of Chestnut Grove Community Church and worked in the health and food industry for several years. These could be briefly catalogued as: (and he gives a list). Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed the day after her daughters funeral. Family and friends must say goodbye to their beloved Mary Marguerite Taylor (Tweed, Ontario), who passed away at the age of 95, on February 15, 2023. You are not the victim in this story, there is only one. Why? Not that unmuzzled stupid handling from the Instrospection Rundown. Alanzo: Truth and fairness are not necessarily part of that equation. Date of Death or Service Mar 5, 2023 . As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. What if Tayler was your daughter? Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? I think A&E should interview Cathy Tweed and give her time on their network after what has been done to her. Marie Billheimer-also in that show- said (it was an extra scene that wasnt used in the main episode) said that shed gone to her grandmas funeral and her folks were right there-and on the flight- and wouldnt say one word to her. I enjoy the show. The No.1 site across the UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,004,817 notices. At one point, she expressed frustration at being blamed for making her SO brother ill (whom she had not seen for years). I agree, but perhaps she can learn the better ways. But their manipulation does not extend to this blog. He is somewhat psychotic, actually, you know, a little like LRH himself got. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. I noticed the same thing about how the staff was being turned into uncaring individuals by the implementation programs enforced by DM. He was a member of Mt. : https://alanzosblog.com/critics-scientology-withdraw-support-direction-season-2-scientology-aftermath/. I can sympathize with trying to use ones frame of reference to help their kid. Hear Cathy Tweeds version of events. It was before TRs and Objectives because after all that course is considered to be an auditing or processing cycle. Perhaps, we are starting from a different definition of Correct Public Relations. Ian Taylor, who has died of cancer aged 64, was an international oil trading tycoon who also rescued Harris Tweed and chaired the trustees of the Royal Opera House, of which he was a generous . She states very clearly that she took her to the University of Oregon where she was examined by 10 different doctors. That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. Now, looked at from the above clarifications, do you still feel the same way about it? Im sure you know that there are other religions that dont believe in medical treatment, either and that this is actually a matter of freedom of religion. I realize there are many sides to documentaries, but if all the stuff Leah and Mike say are false, why isnt the church proving them wrong? She doesnt stand a chance. In other words where something is merely thought to be a slight sprain, to be on the safe side an X-ray should be obtained, particularly if it does not at once respond. I think the show wouldve been better served if it had done another story on a Sea Org related suicide because there are certainly more of them. It is a dangerous brain illness. I sincerely hope that you are not into law, because God help us if you are!!! Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards age 52 of 1098 Teakwood Drive, Greenville, NC died Sunday February 26, 2023. This lady decides to go to the police to report this physical and sexual abuse from her own husband. They are not really interested in reform and correct justice. In recent times, Tyler Tweeds death was surfed by many individuals. Either way, your assertions arent factual. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. those with money)., Can they reform? But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? I MYSELF had been doing just that until recently, though I didnt do it that much. those with money). "Tayler Tweed's suicide and Aaron Poulin's: Both happened in So. He was born Jan. 29, 1933, in rural Sand Creek to Ole and Nellie (Fjelstad) Tweed. Do you know a reference that says they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill? But theres a reason. But of course, the current anti-Scientology narrative used by haters and by uninformed individuals to help their OWN personal agendas, disseminate a false perception brought about by the Media show. Again, its a matter of freedom of religion as well as separation of church and state. Then I watched a YouTube video from the Vulcan First Officer Chris Shelton where he was using Critical thinking to mock that absurd idea of an Anti-Scientology Cult. In my OWN organization a VERY small class V org I was sent to go see a medical doctor to get lab tests and get treated in anything found before being let to start a Life Repair program. Seems so sad that people may be sharing her tragedy for personal gain. By the way, I found two videos that Cathy Tweed and a friend of hers uploaded to youtube a couple of years ago as a memorial to Tayler. As you probably know, thats from the Bible quoting Jesus. That pisses me off the most! This isnt to be interpreted as meaning that there are no LRHs policies that by themselves, unadulterated in any way, are destructive enough so as to make it a necessity to just get rid of them; we have just too many of those. Forum software by XenForo 2010-2013 XenForo Ltd. This has to be one of the most horrific videos I have seen posted by a parent in response to a suicide awareness video. You do know that the nazis invaded countries and built concentration camps, right? And that would be one way of reforming the abuses in Scientology, and making Scientology technology safer for Scientologists. In fact when I was in I was told to go to a medical doctor twice. In fact, the year after may still be the same day. Douglas farmed from the age of 14 until retirement in 1999 on the Tweed Century Farm in rural Sand Creek. Of course is the same! Pseudoscientists in Scientology? Seeking criminal convictions is not a correct path, as if after 67 years nothing criminal has been able to hold except the Snow White Operation then is very unlikely that this will ever happen in any near future. Mr. Dennis Wayne "Butch" Tweed, age 69, Limestone, passed away peacefully Saturday, February 25, 2012 at his residence surrounded by his family. And btw, I DO study the works of many, many great psychiatrists whom I greatly admire. People commit suicide under the care of the best psychiatrists, too, right? Sorry for all my delusional conspiracies, haha. Leah and Mike are human beings, Not omniscient enlightened perfect masters with IQs of 6000. Are you following me all right so far, dear Henri Chef? Different from that Introspection Rundown, isnt it? Yes, I know that they would be refused service. Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. (Dot) Dorothy passed away peacefully at The . Im pretty sure this tactic of trying to put you in Cathy Tweeds shoes is not getting through to you. A documentary film is a nonfictional motion picture intended to document some aspect of reality, primarily for the purposes of instruction, education, or maintaining a historical record. I dont know about you, but for me, that sounds more like one of those conspiracy theories that people LOVE to hold on to, to ease their boredom. A PAB 6 Handling which basically consisted of A) Daily extroversion using Take a Walk and Look Them Over processes from the Problems of Work book. Funeral arrangements are incomplete by Don Brown Funeral Home in Ayden, NC. Just THESE links would be enough to prove my point : https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201505/the-anti-psychiatry-movement. It says that in order to know you first have to be willing to completely not know, in which case the universe will be open to you. This is all about protecting David Miscavige and the Church. The tax exemption could be either revoked or revised, and a fair payment plan could be allowed for any past payments required as a result of such a revocation or revision. Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? , Good point, I give you that! And yet Scientology has this utterly dysfunctional policy of forbidding these drugs to treat the brain. Larry Hale. Would you like a TV show to make an episode about you and your dead daughter without your consent, and second guess you like this to millions of people? COINCIDENTALLY enough, what Ortega, Jeffrey Augustine, Shelton, Aaron Smith-Levin, and Mike Rinder post, are in PERFECT synchronicity about the SAME EXACT subjects. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). Then you have the standard Scn reference covering EVERYTHING about Assists (Scientology physical healing type of processes) and how to go about it if a PC (Preclear the one undergoing Scientology counseling) gets sick. Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! Historic Notices 0. Most Scnists I know (knew), would initially seek natural treatments (e.g. Feel free to add me to your undesired list. A less loaded example of this principle is what happened with chiropractors. So, they have this idea, that if they publically expose the churchs harmful practice, and rub their nose in it, that the church will reform and cease such actions.. Any leniency from IRS would have to be based on evidence of reformation and good will. On Saturday, a memorial was held for her at Scientology's Hollywood Celebrity Centre as family and friends gathered to remember the attractive young woman who had been working on a career in music and acting (as Tayler DeBari). Thats what I call being able to see truth for what it is. Aliens? Leahs career before The Aftermath was practically non-existent. Avoid the cult at all costs. And that it then forbids its parishioners from trying out medications is actually, literally, dangerous for Scientologists who suffer from depression. This became more evident after GAT2 when the Survival Rundown was implemented, and most Objectives completions had to either re-do their whole Objectives, or get audited on additional Objective processes for dozens (or even more than a hundred) of hours. Take effective measures to correct such wrongdoings where and when they have occurred. It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. I wonder what the anti-Scientology camp Science Officer would have to say about this, , Excuse my manners, Alanzo! The object of Twain's wrath was William A. Clark, a Pennsylvania native who eventually moved to Montana and made fortunes in banking, mining, newspapers, railroads and other ventures. Tyler is a 2016. Guest12, of course that the church have committed many Human Rights abuses, and of course that there is truth to those stories. It all became a psychological bull shit of plain invalidations and case evaluations. Yet he criticises the ones who do. 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