But the amount of micro is through the roof. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. After that, make Paris a state and assign a Pasha to it in the corresponding maintenance screen. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Here is a selection of ten games releasing in March 2023 that we think you should be looking out for. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. 11 Dec 1444 war Ryzan and take there land as it has feudalism, vassalise Tver if they are in the war. I encountered some issues in my own run that couldve jeopardized the progress of this guide. Don't let them. Tell them not to get called into their stupid offensive wars so that youre not caught off guard. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when theReligious League Warfires. Siege down weak Tunis (and Ottos if you can), then make Ottos break treaties with all their powerful allies. If you want to spice up lategame i recommend some RP. However, fabricate claims on Palermo and Messina to make it a lot cheaper, should you need more land. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. . I took Tripoli, Jerba, Susa, and Tunis and gave everything south of that to Fezzan. Dont even consider fighting the Ottomans if you arent allied to several strong nations like Austria, Russia or the Mamluks. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifierCustodian of the Holy Cities. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. The more of it is under your control, the less will be under the control of the Spanish. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. . The AI is really pretty terrible, even a mediocre player shouldn't have that much trouble beating them. I control most of Northern Africa and Central Europe. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when the, fires. Play Burgundy for example and it's all going to be right there in one region. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. The intent is for you to play along and improve your skills and understanding of the game, and have fun all the while! Make your way towards the Holy Roman Empire to go there where the real-life Ottomans couldnt: Vienna. Perhaps it's worth breaking truce with them as well. Purchase some mercenaries in Benghazi and siege down at least one of Fezzans provinces, like Sirt. What matters is a province's development for force limit, manpower, tax income, etc. The goal is that even when they move their capital into anatolia, they will not have direct land connections to their overseas provinces (hello 75% autonomy), and they won't be able to move across the strait over land without getting mil access from you. The Ottomans are at such a crossroads of trade routes that good trade can make them very very wealthy. They're frankly not nearly as difficult to beat as commentary on this sub would have you believe. They hit a mid game power peak typically that's hard to beat, this is not the best time to try fighting them. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. Even with my main allies France and Venice (60kish each) we're still not as powerful as them combined. Who're they allied to? Soon enough, Ottoman Empire was just busy quelling rebellion rising in half the provinces and all I had to do was siege. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. You can check the Ottoman's development and your own in the ledger, but a rough estimate based on experience and the dates you provided would put you at about ~500 development and the Ottomans at ~1000. Meanwhile, you shouldve gotten Sicily sieged down by now. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. Punch Syria out of them if you can. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. Take at least, More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. They guarantee the independence of Medina and Cyprus while Hejaz and Fadl are their vassals. I also guaranteed the Moroccans, to prevent Spain from consolidating its foothold in the Meditteranean. Good allies can be helpful to overwhelm them. when you reach tech 19 units, they wont stand a chance, Usually what I do if I know I need to eventually fight the Ottomans (for an achievement). Might as well ask them to be your vassal! Yeah, they like doing that. The rest of Europe was functionally cowed because after the first war I could just keep fighting them over and over and over again without them putting up a huge response. In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. Aside from sealing off the Black Sea and connecting your territories, theres mostly no need for you to conquer anything north of the Caucasus mountains. Your vassal may have some cores left in my case, Makuria had a core on Dongola, so use that and declare war. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. The Serbians, Bulgarians and Greeks can easily be swayed to revolt if you let the Ottomans drown in war exhaustion, keep them occupied, wait for the rebels to rise up, then sign a peace and let them deal with the problem. Cordoba is a landlocked province, so its tricky to fabricate a claim. One of the biggest flaws for the Ottos is that they're very spread out across three continents (most of the time) meaning they are pretty prone to splitting their forces. You need to win those navy encounters fast. Imo wars in eu4 are less about fighting and more about sieging, especially later in the game with the Imperialism CB where you need to siege your opponents capital down asap for easy WS and WE. Make sure you are not behind their mil tech level or you will be destroyed, as such it's recommended you weaken them early, They tend to pick a discipline advisor to combo with their 5% discipline tradition, recommend to get as much morale as you can, Use terrain/good generals to your advantage, Get as many good alliances as possible but never declare if they are behind the ottomans in mil tech, You can deny their cores, which is one of the main sources of their strength, You can call a crusade against them if you're the pope which can give you good bonuses. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. I'm thinking No CB on Byzantium on day 1 -> vassalization of Byzantium -> Get PLC as an ally -> return all Byzantine cores is the most viable option now since otherwise their endless manpower just annihilates anything in their path midgame. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! Stack up on military ideas and policies (for example quality + religious gives extra morale and siege ability) so despite my lower army size they are vastly superior in quality. Yeah, they aren't the scourge of Christendom for nothing. I declared war on Morocco, which they had guaranteed. The better player you are, the more attention you pay to all of this aspects. Just take as much provinces as you can. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. This is not specific to this run. JavaScript is disabled. . Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. We need at least one province deep Persian territory Samarkand. form italy (maybe with milan first cause of the sweet ideias), go quantity offensive defensive. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. You can easily take down some enemy stacks trying to avoid your blob army for some additional WE. Whereas we matched the historical Ottoman sultans in previous episodes, well one-up them in this one! Numbers don't mean a whole lot when you can't fight quality+co and offensive for a +15% discipline is good (discipline boost tactics too, so its very good). This might not be as helpful as all the comments but I'll just post my observations: I've noticed ai Ottomans tends to overexert themselves near late game with nonstop wars. When you attack a mountain, or a fort, or -worse- a mountain fort, you have a good chance to be defeated. and our So keep picking at small stacks. However, the coastal areas are likely up for grabs. all are full except expansion. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If you are fiercly religious don't make it your mission to take their clay and convert it but force their country to answer to your god. Were in another race for influence this time in North Africa, against a much more formidable foe! Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. Doesn't always work but it's a solution if you don't want to start a war right away. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. The best option is to wait for the Ottomans to declare war on some other neighbor. By writing about games, he can bring two of his great passions together. Hit them early and try to divide their territory works great. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. My troops always seem to suck and lose equal manpower battles, maybe I need to read up more on how it all works :'), Yeah no dlc yet but I'll keep that in mind for next game, thanks :). 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I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. Keep that Navy under constant pressure. There we have it the end of our EU4 guide, as we made the Ottomans easy! It's the transport ships that give me headache. The whole of the Bosporus should be your main target for conquest. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? So it's 1638 and I'm planning to attack them before they keep blobbing land. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. Note: Be smart about who you declare war on. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. If you call Tunis into wars but dont give them any of the lands they may want, theyll always have a truce with Fezzan, but never get to annex it. If you can't do that, at least guaranteeing them (if you're strong enough, of course) will keep the Ottos out for some years, wait for them to be on a long war, cancel the guarantee and attack after the truce. At this point, the war is won. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. I decided to take Crete as well, but not yet more of Dalmatia. So be prepared. Afterward, you can focus on expanding your coastal possessions to gain more power in the Horn of Africa trade node. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. That's why my new. More governing capacity means more states, and more states means more money. Simply declare war for your permanent claim on Caffa, and take your cores back. Well I just got out of a disasterous war with the Ottomans. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. When youre already allied, youre giving that country a diplomatic relationship slot anyhow. Right. Make sure to take the cities of. I'm new, and I've never even heard of Byzantium historically? Luckily for you, the AI in Eu4 is incredibly stupid, so you'll likely only face a portion of their full military at first, and this is a wonderful time to stackwipe a third of their forces. They started taking ex-moldavia area and are now beating up Venice, I get what you mean, their base from the provinces is 107 while mine is just 38 :(. For more information, please see our i play a lot vs ottomans playing as hungary, which is weaker than poland/plc, but very similar. In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. Welcome to the third and final part of this Ottomans guide for EU4: The Ottomans made easy! 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