The Sky will give you the same fits regarding edge hold and the Black Crows are nice, but lack the metal build of the Nordica. 2022 Ski Comparisons: Men's ~100mm All Mountain Ski Guide. With minimal rocker and taper to the ski, it does hook up easily, but if youre looking to glean the best response from it, you are going to need to put in your own effort as well. The Tracer 98 is light enough to use as a touring ski, yet the Innegra Mesh adds in the torsional stiffness you need to hold an edge on firm snow. Looking to complement my 177cm Monster 83's with either a 186 or 191 Enforcer 100. While this isnt a free pass to say screw all that, I know I need 210s!, it is an official recognition that different skiers have different preferences which can easily change the length of ski they purchase. Up until this winter, I was skiing entirely in the east, mostly smaller NY and PA hills, with a few trips to Whiteface. While that metal is thinner than we see in most skis with this style construction, it's still there. This has led me to start looking for something else. I also am definitely ready to upgrade and was looking in this category anyways. What skis do you think I should be considering? Have fun! You certainly don't "need" metal in your skis, but if you're a pretty aggressive guy I think you'll appreciate at least having some. Thanks. Nice, versatile skis that have a high-end for progressing skiers. Mark, Hi Mark! Will ski pretty much anything, anywhere on the mountain and prefer exploring off piste then zooming around on groomers all day (70/30). Who it's For:Anyone that wants a fun, versatile, playful all mountain ski that will perform well in a variety of terrain and snow conditions will really enjoy skiing the Origin 96. Specifically, I've been eyeing the Sky 7 and the QST 99. This one should get more credit. Thanks so much for the feedback! On the other hand, the Unleashed is a little softer than the Enforcer with a more pronounced tail to offer a freeride application. Just for mogul performance, the 93 will be quicker and easier than the 100. Have fun! Overall, however, the Bonafide is still right up there among the stiffest, most powerful skis in this category. Hi Chase! The Rocket Frame titanal laminate supports this theory, with full-metal underfoot and wider metal through the back end of the ski, its all business back there, and quite stiff to flex. Its a refined feel, that is amazingly a bit softer than the outgoing version, and more skiers will be able to find a home on the Kore 99. The lower rise rocker gives the ski better edge contact on firm snow, which has improved carving performance. The Kore, in my opinion, feels more focused on off-piste maneuverability than anything else. Thanks again! We had a lot of fun in the trees with these skis, as the HRZN tech in the tips combines with that cap build to make it agile and swift while remaining stable and powerful on more groomed terrain. The Kore is a good mix of the three, with the Sky being the quickest and floatiest, and the Salomon being the dampest and most stable. Thinking 100 under foot but maybe thats the problem. 6'3" 200 pound mid-40s ex-racer & instructor here. I'm definitely not the most aggressive skier; I appreciate being able to ski in control at moderate speeds, especially in the steeper off-piste stuff. Sometimes you just need to speak to a expert, so if you're still having trouble picking a size, please give us a call at (877) 812-6710. Still have questions? You want something stiff, but not overpowering that you can ski on all day, any day. New 2023 Atomic. Oliver, Hi again Oliver! Have fun! Stowe opens this Friday, so we're not far behind you PS I would like binding suggestions as well. Thanks, JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Im also looking for something a little less demanding than the RTM 84 - I love the ski, but it can be unforgiving. It's not the most powerful or more precise ski on firm snow, but it's no slouch either. I love the Soul Rider as an all-mountain ski. Currently skiing 2018 Enforcer 100s. Id say Im an expert level skier (IMHO). I was planning to visit the rocky mountains and maybe also go heli skiing next season. Have fun! They're a bit more user-friendly than the Mantra, but a bit better on-trail than the QST. ), Hi Kevin! 172's with the marker bindings. I still ski on a 1998 Salomon Super Force 92S in a 203 from time to time, so I'm right there with you. Chris Bentchetler is known for taking freestyle and park-inspired tricks into the backcountry, and this is his pro-model all-mountain ski. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 2020 Atomic Bent Chetler 100 Used Demo Skis w Bindings 164cm Sale: $599.99 39% Off $985.00. Hi Dave! Because ski bindings are so precise, it's crucial to have them mounted to the BSL and not the Mondo Point. A 120 mm waist and blended rocker profile give you a solid footing for surfy floatation . With a slightly longer than average turn radius of 20 meters in the 178 cm length, these skis make for a great choice in the bumps and trees, while the metal underfoot and through the tail allow for proper carved turns on firm snow. High-speed skiers who love a challenge, whether its terrain or snow conditions. I'd go 92 unless you want something a bit burlier and wider. I've found that former/current racers prefer skis like the Mantra and Bonafide to the other models on your list due to the construction. If you're looking for another choice, check out the K2 Pinnacle 95--very maneuverable and super-fun on the groomers. An intermediate skier may struggle with its level of power. The last time I demoed E100 it was a 185 (previous generation). Have fun! I have a pair of '99 Rossi 4S (203 cm) and K2 Totally Piste Teles from the mid 90s. Hope that helps! While most skis out there have a speed limit, these have a speed minimum. Im 6-1 and 205lbs. Those were both near the top of my list, along with possibly the Kore. I've currently got a pair of Blizzard Magnums (I think low 80s underfoot) which I love for the groomers, however, I am finding myself sometimes spending the entire day off-piste in the trees. Thoughts on the enforcer 100 or other skis I should consider? If we were to pick two words to describe the Kore 99 from Head they would be stiff and lightweight. Don't hesitate to give us a call at (877) 812-6710 and let us help you. Love to hit the powder and the trees and cruise hard with my kid BUT still getting lessons when I can and trying to improve and eventually want to ski like I board - fluid, 2nd nature, playful, pop off stuff, go pretty hard, some carving, very little park. For a true 100, check out Atomic Backland 100--fantastically light and energetic, leaning more to the A/T side of the spectrum. These things are some of the most agile, playful, and energetic skis out there, and the fact that they dont have any metal in them is pretty darn impressive. Use: This is a question thats most relevant to advanced or expert skiers: Where are you skiing? First place I come to for quality insight on the latest equipment. If you love surfing on fresh snow, but dont want a super-wide ski to do so, the ZX 100 is a fantastic choice. I'm a advanced skier from western Canada. The QST is an absolute blast in moguls and trees. I just imagine the M5 would feel like a lot of ski when skiing slowly, and it's also not the most maneuverable ski in trees. Just be aware that the extra length takes away some of its maneuverability/forgiveness, so only make that decision if you really think you need the extra stability. None of your choices are "wrong," but that QST just does everything well. Hi SE, In addition, I think I need a good cruising east coast groomer ski. Have fun! Love the review. You could go closer to 180 if you want to, but probably not necessary. Whats your advice? You could, however, argue that the Bonafide just accepts skier input a little more easily than the MX 99. Ski Expert. For real powder days, I'd demo something meant to handle powder. The Kastle MX 99 is stiff, powerful, and holds an edge better than just about anything in the 100 mm category. I think you're a 185/184 skier for the most part except for family time, but then they'll just be on the heavy side. Unlike the previous version, we're back to a Mantra with camber. Hope that helps! Maneuverability, Torsional Stiffness/Edge Grip, Quickness. SE, Hi Kyle! They're great in trees and bumps, but the Camox might be more well-rounded and with a higher-performance ceiling. Awesome. Kind regards, It's a heavier ski for sure, and while you could grow into it in terms of performance, it may be on the prohibitive side at first. Maybe the Salomon QST 99? Finding your Boot Sole Length (BSL) is easy. I mostly stay on the groomers but do a little of piste and like to carve it up. This gives the ski an insane amount of stability and smoothness that is not found elsewhere in such a playful ski. Hi Kovi! I like the extra stability on groomers, and with 102mm waist widths, the extra length allows me to use these skis in light powder on those rare East Coast days. The M5 is a bit softer than the Bonafide, and with a new type of construction with the Titanal Frame, you get a precise edge feel with a more playful overall character. Any ways, I am looking for some help, guidance and/or opinion on what I should focus on. not sure on what length to go with either. SE. SE. That would really help in tight moguls and trees, and it still has solid torsional stiffness and good vibration damping so will hold an edge really well on firm snow too. Youre likely still pretty cautious in regards to your speed, but are able to stop on demand and have a bit more confidence that youll make it to the bottom in one piece. So, I was wondering which pair you would recommend considering that and the fact that I am not a fan of carving and I usually ski in Canada where the snow is often hard and pretty icy? Skiers who value light weight over stability. SE, Hi SE! Have fun! SE. fyi length-wise I heard the Bent 100 skis a little short due to rocker but I do find the 184 Bacons to be plenty 'enough' even being the twin tips they are. I'm looking for a ski that will push my ability into a more advanced realm. This gives it a great feel on firm snow as you get full length edge contact, however the M5 Mantra is impressively maneuverable in softer snow conditions as well. I'd get on the Origin 106 too if you can, you might be surprised by that ski. A proper fitting boot is a key piece of equipment to take your skiing to the next level. While the construction is slightly different between the three, the overall concept and goals are similar. I'd recommend meeting somewhere in the middle with something like the Blizzard Rustler 9, Head Kore 93, or Salomon QST 92. Definitely the best in powder out of the skis you're considering, and super fun in moguls and trees too. Hope that helps! I've been considering Nordica Enforcer 93 and the Fischer Ranger 99Ti. Who it's For: You're not the most aggressive skier on the hill and you like to spend more time off the trail than on it. The Rustler is a bit more of a twin-tip shape, so the tail releases easier than the Pinnacle. Have fun! The Dynastar M-Pro 99 has a unique build and shape to it that sets it apart from other skis on this list, and its interesting both hand-flexing it and looking at the profile of the ski as it sits on the wall. Blizzard Brahma 88 3. Hi Peter! I guess id be more toward the beginner side of intermediate. Advanced and Expert skiers who are looking for power, dampness, and stability. Skiers looking for a great soft snow ski with more dramatic than average tip taper and rocker. On the slightly lighter and more maneuverable side, I'd check out the Fischer Ranger 94 FR or the Blizzard Rustler 9--both great all-mountain skis that can hold on ice as well. 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