Newbie to the forum here. This is an area where I do think the technology has brought the price down. The AV8805 is the latest generation flagship A/V processor and preamp from Marantz. As mentioned previously the bundle included. Reactions: thrillcat. As is usually the case in the A/V world, upgrades offering even more goodies were soon to come. Wonder how a Yamaha would stack up? Audio Advice is North Carolinas #1 smart home and automation company. Case in point: the new Marantz AV8805 ($4,499), an A/V preamplifier sporting 13 processing channels and a 15.2-channel preamplifier stage for home theater enthusiasts who want to address virtually every available speaker array option. . I am deciding between a McIntosh mx100 and marantz 8805aboth with the same msrp of $5k. Or is it simply a cash and carry type of deal? 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S/N: 105 dB (IHFA weighted, Direct mode), Distortion: 0.005 % (20 Hz 20 kHz) (Direct mode), Total harmonic distortion 0.008 % (1 kHz, at 0 dB). or would it make more sense at that point to buy something around that price like JBL SDP-55, AudioControl Maestro X7, Anthem AVM 90, or McIntosh MX123 once they get HDMI 2.1 support? Are they the best? what does, 0.0005% THD and 105 dB SINO for digital sources, 0.0005% THD and 104 dB SINO for unprocessed analog sources, 0.002% THD and 101 dB SINO for processed analog sources (room EQ or tone control active). The Marantz AV8805 13.2CH 4K UHD AV processor supports all 3 immersive surround formats, 6 assignable height channels, high resolution . McIntosh launched two new AV Processors in 2020, the MX321 and MX100 which fill gaps in their por. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. High end Marantz processors seem to be the go to choice with people integrating HT and two channel systems so it must be fine. The Marantz AV8805A is a direct upgrade of the AV8805, making it the obvious better choice for those who want the ultimate audio and visual performance in their home theater (>>> Check on Bhpotovideo).That said, if you don't need 8K upscaling and don't mind using overhead speakers to achieve a 3D soundscape, the Marantz AV8805 brings a similarly . The problem with Mc digital based products is that much of their parts are outsourced and they don't have a clue up firmware and software delivery or updating. Created out of a dream and brought to reality with imagination and expertise engineering, the McIntosh Reference home theater system brings the ultimate theater experience into your home. Thanks Amir. AV40 16-Channel AV Surround Processor. qh. If they were good enough for the Dead as a road worthy amp about 50 2300s then maybe their home products were just as good only looked better and was down a little on the wattage.I think their quality control , their family lineage and proven both by specs and demos sealed the deal for them. A recent firmware update endowed the AV8805 with support for eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel), which allows for the carriage of 3D-format audio signals from TV apps over a single HDMI connection. new ones are selling for approximately $2200 now. qr; jd; bi; ej; hv; vg. JavaScript is disabled. 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Other HDMI 2.1 8K AV Receiver and AV Processor videos:Yamaha 2021 8K Aventage AV Receivershttps://youtu.be/nAsynM7acWcPioneer Elite 2021 8K AV Receivershttps://youtu.be/y9yLpH4p5yQOnkyo 2021 8K AV Receivers vs. Pioneerhttps://youtu.be/u170d7yYCu4Denon 2021 8K AV Receivershttps://youtu.be/OoqjYeetUWsMarantz 2021 8K AV Receivers Processors vs Denonhttps://youtu.be/kOSV4YfbBmELyngdorf 2021 8K AV Processors https://youtu.be/sOfJtEAVADI It must be doubling of the bit depth in the Audessey calibration? That is rarely possible w/o buying it, but if he is a friend perhaps he'll oblige. My requirements include balanced outputs to feed the 7 channel amp, at least 11.1 compatible, and a pair of balanced inputs. AT A GLANCE Other features found in the AV8805 include HEOS wireless multiroom streaming, AirPlay 2, Bluetooth, Alexa voice control (good if you dont mind Amazon spying on you 24/7, which I do), and flexible Audyssey MultEQ XT32 processing that allows a user to input their own target curves (requires the Audyssey app, available for $19.99 from the iTunes and Google Play Stores). There is an analogue video output which feeds a 7" display but it does not show the menu of the AV. @tomiiv30 - How do you like the AV8805? McIntosh however, is way more expensive and caters to people who are willing to pay extreme amounts of money for av gear. Information online seems to be sparse other than the initial product announcement a few months ago. I really enjoy McIntosh. Few months ago I upgraded the speakers and got the B&W's 600 S2 series speakers, I got a pair of 683 S2 Floorstanding, HTM61 S2 Center and 2 pairs of 685 S2 bookshelves to give me that 7.1 surround. Featuring support for up to 13.2 channels of immersive sound, the AV8805 includes Dolby Atmos, Dolby Surround, DTS:X, DTS Neural:X, DTS Virtual:X, IMAX Enhanced, Auro-3D, and the complete Audyssey Platinum suite. AV 10 Reference 15.4 Channel 8K Ultra HD Home Theater Pre-Amplifier/Processor with Dolby Atmos, DTS:X Pro, IMAX Enhanced and HEOS Built-in. Zobacz inne Amplitunery, najtasze i najlepsze oferty,. Feb 27, 2019. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Additional connections include: 4 digital audio inputs; 1 balanced and 8 unbalanced analog stereo audio inputs (including 1 dedicated as a Moving Magnet phono input to connect a turntable); an unbalanced 7.1 multi-channel audio input; 3 component and 4 composite video inputs; 1 USB Type A input; 2 unbalanced analog stereo outputs; and 2 composite and 1 component video outputs. You are using an out of date browser. I was "set" on the new Marantz 8805 but since delivery dates are iffy, I am reconsidering. Wonder how Anthem's stuff performs. To let you know what Im going through, I bought the MX123 processor and the MC257 amplifier and two MI128 8 channel digital amplifiers and one MPC1500 power controller. @auxinput I still haven't gotten it yet, it will be few days until it comes to my house. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? It played fine for four hours, then started the same problem. McIntosh 2021 8K AV Processors vs Marantz and Lyngdorf. The Marantz 8B is one of the best sounding commercially-produced amplifiers I've ever heard. vi. Now Available: Tech Talk Podcast with Scott Wilkinson, Episode 19 Click here for details. Copyright 2023 Audio Advice. Actually, some of my ancestors may well have been Cretans. Powered by Xenforo, Hosted by Nimbus Hosting, Original design Critical Media Ltd. Arent some of the Mc AV processors based on Marantz designs anyway? McIntosh Laboratory, Inc. - 2 Chambers Street - Binghamton, NY 13903-2699 There's a new processor from McIntosh (mx123), which has nearly identical specs to the flagship Marantz (8805) that is already available. Features and Setup The MX123 is more curious..neither the 8805 or the 7705 have HDCP 2.3 which is part of the specs for that processor. I'm not too familiar with vintage Marantz, never owned a piece. I have a Mark Levinson No. Other options at a higher cost would be the Classe' SSP series. The MX weighs about 32 pounds to just over 30for the AV8805. company number 03997482, registered in England and Wales. I had a 2105, adcom fga555, onkyo integra i think it was a 5030 or 5080 I cant remember,Carver tfm35X, and a sunfire 300X2 all at the same time. The Rotel amp will do just fine for your 683 S2. I have historically been a Marantz fan as i really enjoy the what many people refer to as that "Marantz sound". If you stick with their amps or analog based preamps you are fine as that is what the company was built on. With its 15-channel output, an AV8805 owner can configure their system to get the most out of the Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, and Auro-3D formats. McIntosh New 2020 Processors - MX321, MX100 + Entire range. I only have one zone .. your saying that basically playing music of any source will constantly result it the music sporadically dripping out ? All perfectly OK but also perfectly uninspiring sounding to me. Marantz has also stated that it will offer an upgrade to HDMI 2.1, a new HDMI version that supports up to 10K resolution video and high frame rates, in the future (cost is yet to be determined). The MX123 A/V Processor marries a long tradition of uncompromising McIntosh sound quality with the latest home theater technologies to bring you an unsurpassed luxury home entertainment experience. Depending on your needs, space and available amplification, the AV8805 can deliver a full 9.2.4 or 7.2.6 configuration . He told me the "guts" of the MX122 were manufactured by Marantz and are essentially the same as those of the 8802- which he has a demo version he's willing to move in prep for delivery of the 8805s. The central piece of hardware driving my system then was a Marantz AV8802A surround processor, a model that offered 11.2 channels of processing and an optional Auro-3D upgrade. Thank you, Amir, for continuous shedding of light on the hi-fi backstage. McIntosh 2021 8K AV Processors vs Marantz and Lyngdorf. "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. However, the Marantz & the Mac MX122 are very good for HT but arent good enough for 2ch music playbacks IMO. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Quick View. The AV8805s rear panel is completely packed with connectionsnot surprising given how many channels this beast supports. JavaScript is disabled. If the MX123 has a flatter response, I might lean towards getting one of those instead. For surrounds you can get the B&W 805 D3 unless if you're using those in-wall surround speakers right now. Widescreen Explained: Whats With The Black Bars? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For your stereo listening you can get a high end very good stereo integrated amp. I remember my first flagship A/V receiver like it was yesterday. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Apr 4, 2018. I got it for 999 (some 50% rebate). It utilizes a sophisticated, advanced algorithm designed to produce the highest-quality, sharpest 4K HDR images. Any more feedback, pics, reviews of the 123? Comparing the Marantz AV7706 vs the AV8805, you'll immediately notice a few differences starting with the number of channels and price. Clean, highly detailed sound Any updates on the 123? 13 processing channels and 15 audio outputs I cannot say enough about the Marantz. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The measurement results were not a pretty picture. All rights reserved. This is a review and detailed measurements of the Marantz AV8805 flagship Audio and Video Processor. As of September 2021, the MX123 supports 8K/60Hz and 4K/120Hz resolutions and refresh rates. I heard that Mac used and maybe still uses Marantz's designs into their own premaps and was told that Mac is the last place to buy a preamp from and that they do not update their gear on time. For the video needs of your home theater, the MX123 has 7 HDMI inputs and 3 HDMI outputs, with each being HDCP 2.2/2.3 compliant. Joined Feb 14, 2020 Messages 43. DSD and ALAC playback support have been doubled to DSD128 and ALAC 192kHz for better high-resolution audio performance. They use much of the same parts. I'm very partial to the McIntosh, but that's partly due to their reputation for build quality and my gut feeling that the premium price is justified by the construction. Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 -. In other words, you can run all video sources through the processor without fear of them being downgraded. It was the year 2000, and Onkyos TX-DS989, which sold for a cool $3,200 and featured seven channels of built-in amplification plus support for the latest, greatest THX Surround EX and DTS-ES codecs was every home theater enthusiasts dream. If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?! I have reviewed and agree to the foregoing Terms & Conditions, including the McIntosh Privacy Policy linked therein. I have always wanted to have a McIntosh gear and when time came to upgrade my HT I looked no further than the MC8207 which was priced perfect for my likings, I am not that much into the blue meters for my HT so that's why I decided to get the $3000 cheaper version of the MC207. Photos are for illustrative purposes only. But if not, also check out the Yamaha CX-A5100/A5200 pre-pro. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Since using the beamer with its noise is not an option I had to carry my computer monitor into the living room. #1. There's AirPlay 2, Bluetooth, Spotify Connect, IMAX Enhanced and DSD128 and ALAC 192kHz support in addition to Audyssey MultEQ XT32 calibration too. Created out of a dream and brought to reality with imagination and expertise engineering, the McIntosh Reference home theater system brings the ultimate theater experience into your home. As I have said in multiple other threads, I tested the 8805 and thought it was very good, but with slightly rolled off highs. This is so interesting and valuable. If that's the case, I too would be interested in a direct comparison. AV8805 supports 4K Ultra HD 60Hz video, 4:4:4 . and just stream movies. Remember though - a McIntosh insides in their pre/pro is very much like the Marantz 8805. Cool it, and stop dropping names Hardy. The Marantz AV8805 is the manufacturer's latest flagship AV pre-amp and 13-channel processor. How Does Lighting Control Impact the Design of a Home? MX123-A61201. I was gonna go with the McIntosh MX-122 but that thing is already outdated when it comes to new features and it costs twice as much. By bb. I experienced the same problems with the second one as I did the first one. Ceneo. Bass and treble tone controls plus a 9-band equalizer offer additional fine-tuning. The MX123 also gives you the flexibility to create 2 additional zones in your house and send select audio and/or video to each zone. You must log in or register to reply here. I've always loved the Marantz sonic signature. The MX123 A/V Processor marries a long tradition of uncompromising McIntosh sound quality with the latest home theater technologies to bring you an unsurpassed luxury home entertainment experience. The Verdict: Marantz AV8805A vs AV8805. Yes you definitely need to upgrade your speakers from the B&W 683 S2, especially now that you have the Mac C52/MC462 combo for your stereo listening to music. If you are not familiar with this category of device, AV Processors are the heart of high-end home theaters. I have had the 8805 in my video room for over a month now. I did make the purchase as much for an investment as to listen to the equipment and gain experience for my own ears. IMAX Enhanced is a set of stringent performance standards established by IMAX and DTS to create a consistent and higher bar for image and sound performance on premium devices. The quality of sound from my 8805 is good enough that I use it as a stereo preamp as well as an SSP. That Marantz should be far ahead of the outdated Mc offerings at a lot lower cost. ARC-AV40-US. As for the preamp I went with Marantz AV8805 blind without hearing it just because I grew up with Marantz gear (wish I still had it) knowing that Marantz sound is up to what I like, plus again I am saving big over the MX122. I am currently using Marantz gear on 3 of my 2 channel systems and Adcom on my SRS's. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 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